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June 25, 2002: 3D model, third review
June 20, 2002: 3D model, second review
June 14, 2002: 3D model, first review
June 19, 2002: Pouneh and Kiki use the plasma cutter!
May 30, 2002: Copper delivery!!!!
      Kiki's photos
      Sandy Gentile's photos
May 27, 2002: Copper bowl tests
May 8, 2002: Free plywood!
April 3, 2002: TIGing copper test -- successful!
April 5, 2002: Size comparisons among different bowl sizes
March 31, 2002: Layout the basin with a hose
March 28, 2002: Model with basin area and stones
March 17, 2002: Shaping form and window test
March 16, 2002: Painted model with fish base
March 13, 2002: Quick, thrown together model
November 18, 2000: Work party: Fiberglass!

3D model, third review
June 25, 2002
Comments:


>>I made the struts 2.5" diameter as per your Friday e-mail. Your 2" diameter
>>look good too, I had originally had 4" diam (2" _radius_). (reminds me of
>>my first big f-up in the working world, a 14 inch _radius_ rocket nozzle)
>
>Heehee! I have to make "diameter" clear when I tell people about Egeria. :)
>
>And I use the diameter measure instead of radius because it sounds more
>impressive. :) A "5' radius bowl" doesn't *sound* very big. :)
>
>>I am also including a jpg with quiescent water rendered in the bottom bowl,
>>all the bowls can be filled as time is available. Adding fire and water
>>falling would be supercool but I think not a good use of our resources right
>>now.
>
>Looks *fantastic*! And I agree -- it'd be cool to have fire, but a) it's
>work, and b) there's lighting issues with the fire that won't come across
>anyway...
>
>>I am thinking of trying to rebuild the model with the bowls formed out of
>>sheet metal, rather the machined part paradigm that is now being used.
>>This should make it easier to model the spouts more naturally.
>
>Cool. Hope that works out better.
>
>>I am unclear what you meant when you wrote the spouts should be proportional.
>>12" for the bottom (10 foot), wait now I get it (8.4 " wide for 7' bowl, 4.8
>>" for the top bowl). I can make better spouts once I get the model turned
>>into sheetmetal.
>
>Also, the point of the spouts is to have 1' of *water* flow over the bottom
>bowl spouts, not to have 1' wide spouts. See what I mean? They look a tad
>narrow in these pictures.
>
>But anyway, the heights are the most important bits.
>
>>Other modelling things we can try is rough sketch of the support decorations
>>and the ground design. Also should we run some structural calcuations to
>>see what kind of load will be on the supports?
>
>That would be *great*!!
>
>The supports will be the 2" [or so] pipes, then ribs coming from the middle
>to the edges [note: the ribs will come to the edges, though the pipe
>supports won't.] And also rings that run the circumference. Maybe two --
>one at the edge, just under the bowl "wall", and another that runs where the
>pipe supports come up. Possibly another that runs between the pipe support
>ring and the center support.

Photos by John DeVenezia.


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3D model, second review
June 20, 2002
Comments:


>My comments are that the supports look too bulky. What diameter are the
>pipes? Could you change them to 2.5" diameter? I *think* this is a good
>size, from playing with some 2"ID pipes today.
>
>The spouts should be proportional -- meaning 1' for the bottom bowl, so the
>other bowls should be 1/10th of their diameter. I think this will look best.
>
>I have some sketches of the supports. One I thought would look really
>awesome, but looked too weird when I pasted it into a to-scale sketch...
>I'll try again...
>
>The heights look good. I'd *almost* say they could even come down a little
>bit... but it will *shrink* on the playa, so the height will be good.

Photos by John DeVenezia.


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3D model, first review
June 14, 2002
Comments:

>The middle supports look too thick.
>Also, they should be a bit taller,
>like try 34" for the middle and 30" for the top support.


Photos by John DeVenezia.


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Pouneh and Kiki use the plasma cutter!
June 19, 2002
Oh boy was this fun!

Pouneh came over to play with the plasma cutter
and cut out a ''Fire Island'' sign for part of their garden.

I cut off the 1' from the middle bowl piece, so it coule be welded
to the side and make a 7'x7' piece to cut the bowl from.

We had a blast cutting metal!


Photos by Kiki and Pouneh.


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Copper delivery!!!!
May 30, 2002
Here's the copper, fresh off the truck!


Photos by Kiki.

Here's the copper!
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This is my new favorite picture :)
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Ah, yum!
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Photos by Sandy Gentile.


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Copper bowl tests
May 27, 2002
I annealed a piece of copper and pounded a bowl shape out of it.
I wanted to see how difficult it was to create a consistant shape.

It wasn't hard at all!
This bowl took me about an hour total.

At first, I pounded on a flat piece of steel,
but soon realized that pounding in open air was best.
I did this by propping the copper against two hard places
and pounding in the middle.
This rounded it pretty easily, even though the copper was so thick.

I annealed the copper twice.
It work hardened pretty quickly, but wasn't difficult to work even when hardened.

In all, a great test!


Photos by Kiki.


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Free plywood!
May 8, 2002
Greg Tse keyed me in on some free plywood and helped me load it!

Then, on the way home, going up a hill, it dumped out the back...
[The picture shows where I've turned around to reload it...]


Photos by Kiki.


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TIGing copper test -- successful!
April 3, 2002
My friend Greg Solberg invited me over to try his TIG
on some copper samples I got.

In all, a very sucessful day!

You can read about it here.


Photos by Kiki.


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Size comparisons among different bowl sizes
April 5, 2002
I've been unsure about the 3' top tier's size.
It seems too small.
I can't figure out how to make a pedistal for it without it looking silly.

So here's some size tests to compare.
You can look at the file name to see what the sizes are.

I'm leaning towards 10-7-4 as the sizes.
Ug.
Someone stop this project from getting bigger!!! :)


Photos by Kiki.


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Layout the basin with a hose
March 31, 2002
I laid out the basin area and the bottom tier with a hose and extension cord.
I wanted to get a good sense of what this all looked like in reality.

It's amazing how dinky things will get on the playa.
[No, of course I didn't lay it out on the playa itself! :)
But I could imagine it out there...and how it would shrink out there...]

I was disappointed: 25' looks about right,
whereas, 20' looks small and cramped.

I hemmed and hawed about 9' vs. 10' and Jim laughed at me. :)
He's right: there's not much difference.
However, there *is* a difference in ratio,
and I like the rapidly decreasing size over the shallower,
so I'll also probably stay with the large bottom tier too...

Dangit!
So much would be simpler if it could be smaller!
Arg! :)


Photos by Kiki.

Model added for fun!
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Too small!
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What the fountain will be like
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What the fountain will be like
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Model with basin area and stones
March 28, 2002
I did a mockup of the basin area with printed stones.

I still want to clean this up, but this gives the best sense of scale
of all the pictures of models.

Once finished, this will be the model I take around to show off!


Photos by Kiki.


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Shaping form and window test
March 17, 2002
We found this form at Urban Ore.
Hopefully, we can use it to pound on to shape the bowls!

I also did a test of the windows.
The light doesn't show up well here,
but it looked great!

I realized that with light on the fish coming from above and below
that the fish will shimmer and appear to twist and wriggle!


Photos by Kiki.

We'll use this form to shape the bowls


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Firelight through the windows


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Painted model with fish base
March 16, 2002
I painted the paper plates,
printed out fishbase supports,
and added some S-shaped spirals.

I did the fish with a white background at first,
but since I plan to paint the bases behind black,
I re-did them in black.

They look real slick in black!


Photos by Kiki.


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Quick, thrown together model
March 13, 2002
I threw together this model for my meeting with Larry Harvey.

It's amazing what one can accomplish under pressure.
:)


Photos by Kiki.
These paper plates are actually reasonably to-scale.
There are four different plates altogether: 10", 9", 7", 4.5"
The pedestals are also to-scale.
The paper person is 6" tall.
The "torches" use 8" straws, with 1-2" of candle.

I lit the base ring lights using fiber optic,
unknowingly supplied by my boss. :)

A to-scale sketch


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Daylight pictures, various configurations


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Seen from above


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''Night time'' pictures


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Closeup of the base illumination flames


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Work party: Fiberglass!
November 18, 2000
We had a work party and did some fiberglass. We also looked at some projects
by Dave Ellsworth, and some great books from Steve Dartt.


Photos by Kiki.


Dave's walkway bricks idea -- for Firetown
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Kiki spreads epoxy for triangle for Firetown Crystal Palace Dome
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